no response from Kvaser after a long delay between messages

Beginne damit, das Problem mit einem Kvaser Leaf Light v2 oder U100 über die kvaser-Schnittstelle zu reproduzieren, und untersuche dann den Empfangspfad rund um bus.recv() sowie die gemeldeten Werte von canGetBusStatistics/canReadStatus. Vergleiche das Verhalten vor und nach 1–5 Minuten Inaktivität. Die Aufgabe ist erledigt, wenn eingehende ECU-Frames nach der Verzögerung empfangen werden oder anstelle von None ein klarer Empfangsfehler gemeldet wird.

Describe the error

When using the Kvaser interface via python-can, the CAN bus can automatically stop transmitting received frames (bus.recv() returns None) after a long period of downtime, even if:

• The CAN bus is still physically active,
• ECU responses are present on the wire (externally verified),
• "bus.send()" continues to run successfully without errors,
• Kvaser driver statistics report status=ok and no bus shutdown status.

As a result, python-can reports false “no response” timeouts, while valid responses exist on the CAN bus.

This happens without causing an exception and does not require a forced reinitialization of the bus to recover.

For playback

1. Use python-can with Kvaser leaf light v2 or Kvaser U100.

2. Open the CAN bus and connect to it in the normal mode (sending a request → receiving a response).

3. Leave the system in standby mode for a long time (about 1-5 minutes):

   • The application is running,
   • the tire is open,
   • The Kvaser is connected,

• The control unit is connected and turned on.

4. After the waiting period has expired, send a new CAN request.

Observed behavior:

• bus.send() completed successfully.
• bus.recv(timeout) returns the value None until the timeout expires.
• Python exception is not generated.
• External monitoring confirms that ECU responses are present on the bus.

The problem occurs periodically, but can be fixed after sufficient downtime.

Expected behavior

bus.recv() must continue to return incoming CAN frames after periods of downtime until:

• the tire is open,
• The hardware is connected,
• The driver does not report a bus shutdown or a passive status with an error.

At a minimum, python-can must either:

• automatic recovery or
• returns a clear error indicating that the reception descriptor has become invalid.

Additional context

This is apparently due to ** inactivity of the Kvaser receive descriptor or internal buffering behavior** after a long downtime.

Observed characteristics:

• Kvaser Driver Statistics Report ('canGetBusStatistics', `canReadStatus'):

  • status=ok

• "Bus load=0.0%"

• no overspending, no bus shutdown

• However, the function bus.recv() does not return any frames.

• Forced bus shutdown and reinitialization restore normal operation.

Operating system and version:
Windows 10 / Windows 11 (x64) (tested on both)

Python version:
Python 3.9

python-can version:
4.5.0/4.6.1 (tested on both)

python-can interface/s:
kvaser

[KvaserSnap:frame_write]
statistics=std_data: 0, std_remote: 0, ext_data: 0, ext_remote: 0,
err_frame: 0, bus loading: 0.0%, overspending: 0 status=ok