MountainSort5: expose `pca_seed` / `random_seed` sorter param (pair with MS5 configurable PCA seed)
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Research direction
Start with src/spikeinterface/sorters/external/mountainsort5.py, especially the whitening_seed parameter and _params_description; check the current MountainSort5 Scheme parameter objects and issue #69 to confirm seed support before forwarding it. Then review the sorter documentation and existing MountainSort5 tests to identify where to document and check reproducibility. Done means a seed parameter is passed through, its distinction from whitening_seed and threading caveats are documented, and a small seeded-run test is added.
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Description
Summary
si.run_sorter('mountainsort5', ...) already accepts whitening_seed and forwards it to whiten(seed=...) (#4600). There is no analogous parameter for MountainSort5's internal PCA / clustering RNG.
Callers who need deterministic, seed-controlled sorts currently set process-global np.random.seed / random.seed before run_sorter, force n_jobs=1 + single-threaded BLAS, and hope MS5 / sklearn honor the ambient RNG. That is fragile:
- On mountainsort5 < 0.5.9, unseeded
PCA()can follow the ambient NumPy RNG. - On mountainsort5 ≥ 0.5.9, PCA hardcodes
random_state=0, so ambient seeding no longer changes PCA output.
Proposal
Depends on exposing a seed in MountainSort5 itself (https://github.com/flatironinstitute/mountainsort5/issues/69).
- Add a sorter param next to
whitening_seedinsrc/spikeinterface/sorters/external/mountainsort5.py(suggested name:pca_seedorrandom_seed; default matching MS5, likely0). - Forward it into the Scheme1/Scheme2(/3) parameter objects once MS5 supports it.
- Document in
_params_descriptionand the sorter docs that:- this controls MS5 PCA / classifier PCA RNG;
whitening_seedis separate (SI whitening before MS5);n_jobs > 1/ multi-threaded BLAS can void bit-identical reproducibility.
- Add a small test: two runs with the same seed agree on spike trains (or unit count + spike counts on a tiny recording); a different seed can differ (if feasible in CI time).
Optional follow-ups (not required for this PR)
- Persist the effective seed into sorting-folder / provenance metadata.
- A top-level
seed=onrun_sorterthat fans out to sorter-specific kwargs when supported. - A short “deterministic sorting” recipe in the docs (
seed+ spawn/mp_context+threadpool_limits(1)).
I can open a PR once the MS5 parameter lands (or against a known MS5 commit if maintainers prefer).
Context
We rely on reproducible MS5 sorts for parameter sweeps and for re-running a chosen configuration with a content fingerprint of the spike trains. An explicit sorter kwarg would make that a supported SpikeInterface path instead of ambient RNG.
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