Layout area rendering fails with DeliveryFailureException when placement of the tenant messagehub grain times out
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- 4/5
- Tempo stimato
- 3-5 giorni
- Idoneità per principianti
- 18/100
- Tipo di issue
- Bug
- Chiarezza
- Da chiarire
- Stato di attività
- Attiva
- Stack tecnologico
- csharp
- Ambito
- backend, distributed-systems
Direzione di ricerca
Start with MeshWeaver.Layout.Composition.LayoutAreaHost at the log site "Rendering failed for area" and the message-hub delivery it awaits, then the Orleans PlacementService.PlacementWorker timeout frames the issue links from the Ops/Logs entries. The open question is whether this is a residual of #5037 on the messagehub grain family, so the first check is the placement-timeout log query for messagehub over the days since the Oct 2–4 rechecks. Done means that question is answered with evidence, either as a duplicate of #5037 or as a new root cause.
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Descrizione
What is failing
Rendering the Overview layout area in the memex portal aborts with a DeliveryFailureException: the delivery to the tenant message hub TelefonicaSeguros fails because Orleans cannot place the grain messagehub/TelefonicaSeguros within the 30-second placement timeout. The user sees the area render fail instead of a page.
Probable cause
A transient Orleans placement-worker stall placing the tenant messagehub grain. Confidence: moderate — there is a single sample and no deeper stack, so what stalled the placement (silo load, placement-director contention, catalog pressure) is unclear from this evidence alone.
This is the same failure class as #5037 (grain placement timeouts on memex/memex-cloud). The September investigation trail recorded messagehub grains timing out during placement alongside the routing/default bursts (see Ops/Actions/logs-5037-cloud-placement-context-20260928 and the landed Ops/Logs entries from 2026-09-26/28), while the post-roll rechecks for #5037 (Oct 2–4) verified only routing/default timeouts. This incident may therefore be a residual of #5037 on the messagehub grain family that the fix did not cover — treat as a possible duplicate until that is ruled out.
Impact
One occurrence on one portal pod, one tenant's Overview area. A user-visible but retryable render failure; low volume, no data loss indicated.
Where to look
- The render/delivery path:
MeshWeaver.Layout.Composition.LayoutAreaHost(log site "/Rendering failed for area") and the message-hub delivery it awaits. - Orleans
PlacementService.PlacementWorker— the placement timeout lines and stacks landed in Ops/Logs from the 2026-09-28 #5037 classification runs show the worker'sGetOrPlaceActivation/AddressWaitingMessagesframes. - The
telefonicasegurostenant space's messagehub grain on the aks-silos nodes.
Suggested first check: re-run the #5037 log query against the messagehub grain family (Grain placement operation timed out for grain messagehub) over the days since the Oct 2–4 rechecks to establish whether this is one stray or a recurring residual.
Evidence
| Fingerprint | 8a6d880f930298f9 |
| Category | MeshWeaver.Layout.Composition.LayoutAreaHost |
| Severity | Error |
| Exception | MeshWeaver.Messaging.DeliveryFailureException |
| Namespace | memex |
| Pods | memex-portal-deployment-845898d964-ptszc |
| Occurrences | 1 |
| First seen | 2026-10-09 20:42:07Z |
| Last seen | 2026-10-09 20:42:07Z |
| Routing | not determined — no configured route matches the category MeshWeaver.Layout.Composition.LayoutAreaHost. This repository is the configured fallback, not a finding about who owns the fault; the category names the LOGGER, which may not be the subject. |
Recent log lines
2026-10-09 20:42:07Z memex-portal-deployment-845898d964-ptszc fail: MeshWeaver.Layout.Composition.LayoutAreaHost[0]
Rendering failed for area Overview
MeshWeaver.Messaging.DeliveryFailureException: Delivery to 'TelefonicaSeguros' failed: Grain placement operation timed out for grain messagehub/TelefonicaSeguros.
Opened automatically from Admin/_LogIncident/8a6d880f930298f9. Recurrences are folded into this issue rather than opening new ones.
It also stands for the whole log site a11c38b604d38f67: other fingerprints of this site fold in here as comments rather than opening tickets of their own.
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